Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Area Question Answer
General What is a Redrose Camp West Lancashire Scouts has a tradition of regularly organising a camp that enables young people and leaders to have an international Scouting experience. These Red Rose Camps generally alternate between being held at  "home" in West Lancashire, where we invite other Scouts from other Counties and Countries to come and join us, or are "away" where we travel somewhere abroad to experience activities, life and culture of a particular country.  Fortunately West Lancashire Scouts has a strong team of people who have experience in running not only Red Rose Camps, but also other events such as International Community Projects, International explorer Belt Expeditions, arranging and leading UK teams to International World Scout events that make this all possible.
General What are the dates of Red Rose 2008 Subject to confirmation, a UK departure window of 29, 30, 31 July 2008 with a return date of 12, 13 or 14 August 2008
General Where is Red Rose 2008 going to take place After considering a number of options it has been decided to travel to offer Canada as the location for RedRose 2008.  As for exact location, at this moment we are in the final stages of  investigating a number of options that are within a 2 hour drive from Toronto. Further details will be supplied in due course. I( NB ..it is not intended to re-visit those sites that we used in the 1994 trip )
General Will there be sub camps At this moment in time its is not clear. It will depend on numbers attending - 
General What sort of clothing will we need We will provide some guidance on equipment.
General What equipment will we need to take - eg tents, sleeping bags, cooking equipment etc See above
General Do we need camp chairs / sleeping bags  / utensils  Everything you take will need to be in your personal baggage allowance. 
General What is the time difference BST - 5 hours ?
General Do I need a passport Everyone attending the camp will need their own full passport. We would recommend that this has at least six months of remaining time.
For administration and travel purposes, at some point a copy of the back "details" page of everyone's passport will be required.
Individuals will be responsible for their passports safekeeping during the expedition.
General Will I have the chance to meet local Scouts Of course, we are planning to give everyone the opportunity to meet local Scouts.
General Will there be any bears ! Errr … you may see them - but we don’t really expect to be sharing the campsite with them !
General Is there advice for Groups who have not been on an international event before Yes of course. Across the County we have many people who have lots of experience. Contact us via the web site and we will assist and try to get you a local person
Admin Who can apply Applications will be welcomed from those members of West Lancashire Scouts who are above Scout age on 30th September 2006.
We are hoping that Districts would bring together groups of young people with adult leadership teams. However applications would also be welcomed from groups of young people and adult leaders on a Troop basis.
Also we need a number of staff to assist with the event and its programme and we would welcome applications from people over 18 in this area.
Admin Can leaders take their own children if they are under Scout age We would like to accommodate this if this is an enabler to a eligible young people  attending the event
Admin Will my application be accepted if I am the only one from my Group / Unit Yes, although we would expect you to have investigated the options of what other people from within your own District are considering attending so that you could join into an existing groups of young people.
Admin Is there a selection process There is no selection process for the camp other than meeting the above eligibility criteria. Places will be confirmed shortly after the closing date.
Admin How do I apply Applications will need to be made on the booking form and accompanied by a non-returnable deposit of £100 per head. Cheques should be made payable to West Lancashire Scouts. Please note these cheques will only be cashed once the closing date has passed. The return address for the completed form and cheques will be clearly indicated on the form.
Admin When is the closing date The closing date for applications is September 30th 2006. No applications after this date will be considered
Admin Will there be a parents information evening before the closing date It is suggested that leaders with Districts get together to arrange this type of forum
Admin Will there be any training sessions beforehand There will be no training weekends organised by the Core Team - we would encourage local Groups to get together to facilitate this.
There will probably be a drop in weekend closer to the time that people may wish to use as a date for part of this.
Travel What are the travel arrangements We are working with a travel company with significant experience of assisting with Scout trips to ensure that we get the logistics of moving a potentially large number of people from West Lancashire to Canada and back in a safe and cost effective way.
Flights will hopefully be from Manchester and it is hoped to move the party either "en-mass" or in one or two blocks, subject to seat availability.
As things firm up information will be made available.
 
Travel Is there any scope for Groups to stay out longer and get a later flight back Yes, however this MUST BE highlighted at time of booking, or we may not be able to accommodate.
Travel Will people be able to go early or stay later and do their own thing Yes. See above.
Travel How do I get to the UK  airport You / your group will need to arrange transport to and from the departure airport in the UK. Missing the plane is not an option .. And if you do that will be your sole responsibly !
Travel Do I need a VISA Visas are not generally required for British Citizens visiting Canada for short periods.
Travel How long is the flight We will probably fly from Manchester via Glasgow to Toronto. So its probable that you will be in the air for 8 hours ! This is subject to confirmation
Travel How much kit can I bring You will be subject to the normal restrictions that apply to international air travel. This includes a non-negotiable baggage weight allowance and a list of  prohibited items, full details of which will be confirmed.
Travel Can we take stoves on the plane It is not know at this time. Not all airlines apply the same rules to this. Once we have confirmed this with the airline we will advise accordingly.
Travel What about knives on the plane We are subject to the airlines normal regulations. Guidance will be issued - and this MUST BE followed !
Travel What is the position with regards to oversized activity gear To be confirmed with airlines at time of booking. We already have this as a consideration - however - whatever you take - you need to be able to carry !
Programme Who is the programme for Its is intended to offer a programme for the 10.5 to 25 age range and for those leaders accompanying groups of young people.
Programme What programme is included as part of my camp fee As part of the camp fee everyone will have the opportunity to participate in a day trip to Niagara Falls, a day trip into Toronto and the option to participate in some form of simple evening programme.
Programme What other optional extras may there be We are still finalising the full list of optional extras and their associated costs and these will be published as soon as possible.
Programme Are the 3 programme days part of the basic cost Please see finance "what is included"  question.
Programme What is the cost of the additional buy in activities It is not know at this time. Once these are firmed up with the various activity providers information will be posted here.
Programme Will there be an opportunity to do your own thing Yes. The programme has lost of unallocated time for groups to arrange their own thing.
Finance How much is this going to cost A significant amount of work has gone into preparing a budget for the expedition - with the ultimate aim of keeping the cost as low as possible whilst offering an exciting, challenging and safe opportunity.  It has been agreed that the basic cost will be £850 per head.
Finance What is included Air travel to / from the UK
Transfers from Canadian airport to campsite
Worldwide Personal Insurance provided by Scouts Association Insurance Services ( a copy of the policy will be provided )
UK home contact process
Campsite fees in Canada
Camp shirt with logo
Camp badge
International scout kneckie with logo
Day trip to visit Niagara Falls
Day trip into Toronto
Daily basic evening programme
Finance What is not included You will be personally responsible for the following expenses -
Daily lunches and evening meals whilst in Canada
Any passport or VISA fees
Any required immunisations that your medical practitioner may recommend
Your own "lightweight" tent and cooking gear ( advice on fuel etc will follow )
Your own personal kit
Additional "premium" activities not included in basic cost
Finance Is there a payment schedule Yes, there will be a payment schedule that will be confirmed once your application has been accepted. You need to be aware that the final payment will probably be 31 May 2008.
Finance What do you suggest as an amount for spending money We are not able to provide an exact figure. A suggestion would be to have a daily budget. It would also depend on if you intend to dine in / out with regards to evening meals etc
Finance What about spending money As would be expected an amount of personal spending money should be allowed for. Remember to budget for lunches / evening meals and ice creams ( ! ) as well as buying gifts and souvenirs etc
Finance Can individuals / groups do fund raising for the camp Yes ! This needs to be worked in with any existing local / District agreements.